We gathered in the crisp lighht of Daventry Battlefield Hobbies for Fire and Ice, non-europen themed lists. So, I took horse archers, Ay Koyunlu or Aq Qoyunlu , protected horse archers (formally known as White Sheep Turkomen) with an Kara Qoyunlu (Black Sheep Turkomen) ally. Horse archers, technically deadly, but so far have proved to be my bete noir! Each time I have used them I have been absolutely thrashed. I had set myself a goal of scoring about 8 points, basically, one TuG a game. I would be okay as long I did not meet anyone decent, or with massed shooting, or long spears or pikes or better cavalry than me, or... So, Round 1 vs Qin . Ray is an awesome player, and this was going to be a hard game. If he brought anything with shooting capability or decent shooting ability, I would be okay. So, Qin... All bow armed! All foot in either units of nine with crossbows and pole arms, or polearms armed with polearms (so get a plus vs cavalry), and even had a TuG of skilled crossbows. Plus...